Did we Get here? The Roots of
By Tim Naab
This is the most difficult thing to overcome as humans. We base our
understanding and truth on experience. You have heard the old saying,
“experience is the best teacher”. This is not true,
experience is the worst teacher when it comes to spiritual truth. It is only
when we use Scripture that we can overcome those things we have learned by
experience. If I could give you one thing to take away from this study, it
would be this, EXPERIENCE IS NOT OUR SOURCE OF TRUTH, SCRIPTURE IS.Jeremiah 17:9 (KJV) The heart is
deceitful above all things,
and desperately wicked: who can know it? The word for “experience” in the
NT is dokime dok-ee-may’ it comes from the Greek word dokimos meaning to prove
or to be acceptable as in a coin that is made must be proved acceptable,
without flaw. So truth must be the experience not the other way around.
I know that this teaching will be accepted by some, rejected by some, and may
anger or embarrass some. I know what the first EXPERIENCE is like when a
person who speaks in tongues, realizes the truth of it, embarrassment.
Lastly, speaking in tongues is not a sign of a person’s
intelligence or lack of it. Those who do not hold to tongues should not think
of those who do as being less intelligent. Remember, those of you who do not
hold to tongues, Jeremiah 17:9 describes you also.
Dositheus was a Samaritan who formed a Gnostic-Judaistic
sect, previous to Simon Magus. Although the name of Dositheus is often coupled
with that of Simon Magus as the first of all heretics, we possess but scant
information concerning him. He claimed to be the Messiah.
Matthew 24:5 (KJV) For many shall come in my name,
saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Origen states that "Dositheus the Samaritan, after the
time of Jesus, wished to persuade the Samaritans that he himself was the
Messias prophesied by Moses" (Contra Celsum, VI, ii)
Dositheus came on the scene after John the Baptist was killed. He had 13
disciples and one woman named “Luna”. Simon Magus was made one of the 13 when
a vacancy occurred.He also claimed to be born of a virgin and only appeared as a man.
Simon claimed to have created a man from air and other great miracles.In the 2nd century a Simonian sect
arose that viewed Simon Magus as the first God, or Father, and he was
sometimes worshipped as the incarnation of the Greek god Zeus. His consort
Helen was regarded by his followers as the earthly manifestation of Athena.
Acts 8:18-24 (KJV) 18 And when Simon
saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he
offered them money, 19 Saying, Give me also this power, that
on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. 20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with
thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with
money. 21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for
thy heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent
therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of
thine heart may be forgiven thee. 23 For I perceive that
thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity. 24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me,
that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.
"Father" Simon was followed by "Father" Cerdon. Then,
around AD 95-105, Sixtus, ordained by Alexander, the pastor of what used to be
Clement's congregation, apostatized and became the Episcopal head of the
Gnostic school. Cerdon took a back seat, though evidently an influential back
seat, and claimed he had "joined the Church". Transformed into the leader of a
heretical sect, Sixtus could still boast of his Episcopal succession from the
Cerdon was the author of Marcion’s error.,
"Marcion, the founder of the Marcionites, took his cue from Cerdon and emerged
into the world as a great serpent himself. And because he deceived a large
number of people he founded a school which has endured to the present day in a
variety of different forms.
“The vision seems to be
exposing the activity of a particular false prophet in Rome,
and is, most probably, a reference to the sorcerer Cerdon, who occupied the
kathedra of the First Church of Rome at this time.”
Cerdon, as did Marcion, held that the god of Christ, good
and unknown god, were not that of the Law and of the Prophets which was right
and known, Christ had not been born from a virgin and had only one appearance
of body, and there was resurrection only heart not body.
Cerdon partially accepted the Gospel of Luke and only parts of the epistles of
Paul. He rejected the Acts of the Apostles and The Revelation as false.
born 115 years and 6 months after the crucifiction
According to an early Church tradition, preserved by
Epiphanius of Salamis, Marcion was an immigrant to Rome from Pontus in Turkey,
who had once professed to be an ascetic a man eschewing the luxuries of the
world in the service of Jesus but had failed to live up to his calling. He had
been excommunicated from his own Bible believing Church in his homeland of
Pontus, the pastor of which was
his own father, because he had had an immoral relationship with an unmarried
girl in the congregation. When he arrived in
Rome, he first attempted to join the Bible
believing assembly in the city. They discovered the skeleton in his cupboard
and refused him communion. He then crossed over to Cerdon's sect. After
Cerdon's death, he became head of Cerdon's school.
According to Clement of Alexandria, Marcion preceded in
time all the great Gnostic masters: "those that invented the heresies".
That educated scholar from
Alexandria (Clement) represents Marcion as
an "elder" predecessor to two early Gnostic teachers, Valentinus and
Basilides. Another heresiarch, Simon Magus, who is often portrayed as the
grand father of Gnosticism, also is described by Clement as succeeding
Marcion. "This statement of Clement appears to make Marcion an old man while
(Basilides and) Valentinus were still young, and to put Simon Magus posterior
to them all in time".
Marcion taught dualism can refer to ditheism: the belief that there are two
rival great gods, that work in polar opposition to
each other. For example, one god is good, the other evil; or one god works for
order, the other for chaos. Both the Zoroastrian religion, three millennia old
and still surviving, and the extinct Christian, Gnostic religion (and its
variations such as, Manichaeism, Bogomils, Catharism, etc.) are dualistic, as
is Mandaeanism. The third-century Christian heretic Marcion of Sinope held
that the Old and New Testaments were the work of two opposing gods. The
Christian conflict between God the source of all good and Satan the source of
all evil is also ditheistic.
The God of the Old Testament was NOT the God of the New Testament.
The God of the New Testament was another “GOOD” God as opposed to, and
creator of, the “BAD” God of the Old Testament.
He resolutely cut out all texts that were contrary to his dogma; in fact, he
created his own New Testament admitting but one gospel, a mutilation of St.
Luke, and an Apostolicon containing ten epistles of
The good God is all love, the inferior god gives
way to fierce anger.
Christ (not the same a Jesus) did not have a real fleshly body
Christ was God Manifest not God Incarnate.
Christ brought salvation to Cain, Core, Dathan and Abiron, Esau, and the
Gentiles, but left in damnation all Old Testament saints.
Ideas of Marcion's reappeared
with Manichaean developments among the Bulgarian Bogomils of the 10th
century and their Cathar heirs of southern France in the 13th century.
Manichaeanism led to Albigenses (al”bi-jen’sëz), which flourished
France in the twelfth and
thirteenth centuries. This was the beginning of the Camisards, A sect of
French fanatics who terrorized Dauphiné, Vivarais, and chiefly the Cévennes in
the beginning of the eighteenth century. This led to Quakers and Shakers who
rejected any form of organized worship service and depended entirely on what
the Holy Spirit would say to each individual. They based their understanding
of Scripture on their experiences and hearing the word of the Holy Spirit.
Mormonism, in order to prove its position has claimed
theological partnership with Marcion and Montanus.
(influenced by Marcion’s dualism and student of Theodas)
Valentinus had been a disciple of Theodas, who himself,
it is very improbably said, knew
St. Paul. Valentinus cannot have begun to
disseminate his Gnostic doctrines till towards the end of the reign of Hadrian
(117-138). Before this he is said to have been a Christian. It must have been,
therefore, at most only shortly before his appearance as the head of a Gnostic
sect that Valentinus became a hearer of Theodas and received, as he said, his
doctrines from him. The Gnostics were fond of claiming for their secret
doctrines apostolic tradition and tracing them back to disciples of the
apostles. To this otherwise unknown Theodas the
Valentinians appealed as an authority in much the same way as Basilides
was said to have been a disciple of Glaucias, and
he, in turn, an "interpreter of Peter."
From him was derived the parallel between the ideal world (the pleroma) and
the lower world of phenomena (the kenoma). Valentinus drew freely on some
books of the New Testament, but used a strange system of interpretation by
which the sacred authors were made responsible for his own cosmological and
pantheistic views. In working out his system he was thoroughly dominated by
(influenced by Marcion’s dualism and student of Theodas)
The earliest of the Alexandrian
Gnostics and major opponent of Iranaeus.
According to Irenaeus, Basilides was apparently a dualist and an
 According to
Hippolytus, Basilides was a pantheistic evolutionist.
Basilides taught that Nous (Mind) was the first to be born from the Unborn
Father. He stated “From Nous was born Logos (Reason); from Logos, Phronesis
(Prudence); from Phronesis, Sophia (Wisdom) and Dynamis (Strength) and from
Phronesis and Dynamis the Virtues, Principalities, and Archangels”.
“Basilides again, that he may appear to have discovered something more sublime
and plausible, gives an immense development to his doctrines. He sets forth
that Nous was first born of the unborn father, that from him, again, was born
Logos, from Logos Phronesis, from Phronesis Sophia and Dynamis, and from
Dynamis and Sophia the powers, and principalities, and angels, whom he also
calls the first; and that by them the first heaven was made. Then other
powers, being formed by emanation from these, created another heaven similar
to the first; and in like manner, when others, again, had been formed by
emanation from them, corresponding exactly to those above them, these, too,
framed another third heaven; and then from this third, in downward order,
there was a fourth succession of descendants; and so on, after the same
fashion, they declare that more and more principalities and angels were
formed, and three hundred and sixty-five heavens. Wherefore the year contains
the same number of days in conformity with the number of the heavens.”
Basilides was probably the first major Gnostic who viewed
himself as a Christian theologian; but unlike his predecessor Simon Magus, he
rejected the Old Testament. His system was probably an attempt to reconcile
the Pauline Christianity, Egyptian Gnosticism, and popular Alexandrian
Platonist philosophy of his day with his own mystical experiences. He claimed,
by some accounts, to have been vested with secret revelations from Paul
through his "interpreter" named Glaucius; by others from the disciple
Matthias; by others from the now unknown and possibly fictitious prophets
Barcoph and Barcabbas. He wrote 24 commentaries, called Exegetica, on the
Gospels, only fragments of which now remain. Basilides is an Oriental through
and through, who stands in closer relationship to Zoroaster than to Aristotle.
Zoroastrianism: root of Islam and Bahá'í Faith.
Gnosticism was rampant and infiltrating the churches. The
church was moving from its roots as common people of every race, and
occupation to a church that ruled an empire. Many rejected this move and felt
it should remain separate from all earthly things. One of these adherents was;
Priest of Cybele)
Jerome wrote that Montanus believed that God's
supernatural revelations did not end with the apostles, but that even more
wonderful manifestations of the divine energy might be expected under the
dispensation of the Paraclete. It is asserted that Montanus claimed himself to
be the Paraclete.The Montanist book "The New Prophecy"
teaches when God speaks through man a "grace ecstasy or rapture" is imparted
whereby "he necessarily loses his sensation because he is overshadowed with
the power of God".
Marcion and Montanus agree that gifts of the Spirit accompany "ecstasy or
rapture" as it is called.
Montanus claimed to be a prophet and spoke in a kind of possession or ecstasy.
He held that the relation between a prophet and the Divine Being Who inspired
him was the same as between a musical instrument and he who played upon it;
consequently the inspired words of a prophet were not to be regarded as those
of the human speaker. In a fragment of his prophecy preserved by Epiphanius he
says, "I have come, not an angel or ambassador, but God the Father." See also
Cybele's most ecstatic followers were males who ritually
castrated themselves, after which they were given women's clothing and assumed
female identities, who were referred to by the third century
commentator Callimachus in the feminine Gallai, and
who other contemporary commentators in ancient
Rome referred to as Gallos or Galli. Her
priestesses led the people in orgiastic ceremonies with wild music, drumming,
dancing and drink. She was associated with the mystery religion concerning her
son, Attis, who was castrated and resurrected. The dactyls were part of her
retinue. Other followers of Cybele, Phrygian kurbantes or Corybantes,
expressed her ecstatic and orgiastic cult in music, especially drumming,
clashing of shields and spears, dancing, singing and shouts, all at night. Her
cult had already been adopted in 5th century BC
Greece, where she is often
referred to euphemistically as Meter Theon Idaia ("The Mother of the Gods, the
Savior who Hears our Prayers" and as "The Mother of the Gods, the Accessible
One.") She/he was a hermaphroditic Daemon that the Gods decided that it must
be stopped. Dionysus got it drunk by turning a spring into wine and it fell
into a deep sleep. He tied its male parts to its legs or arms, and startled
it, so that it woke and leapt up in fright, it tore off its own male genitals.
Where the blood fell upon the ground, an almond tree sprung up. Deprived of
its male parts, Agdistis was now a female divinity and became the great Mother
Roman devotion to
Cybele ran deep. Not coincidentally, when a RCC basilica was built over the
site of a temple to Cybele, to occupy the site, it was dedicated as the
Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore. The name of the church reflects two ideas of
greatness, both that of a major basilica as opposed to a minor basilica and
also that of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God. Santa Maria Maggiore
is often personally used by the pope. Most notably, the pope presides over the
annual Feast of the Assumption of Mary, celebrated each August 15 at the
There is no evidence of tongues after the first century
until the mid second century by Montanus. Shortly after Montanus' baptism in
to Christianity, he began travelling among the rural settlements of
Asia Minor, preaching and testifying. Montanus was
accompanied by two women, Prisca, sometimes called Priscilla, and Maximilla,
who also purported to be the embodiments of the Holy Spirit that moved and
inspired them. He claimed to have received a series of direct revelations from
the Holy Spirit and to be the paraclete of the Gospel of John 14:16 (KJV) And
I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may
abide with you for ever;. As they went, "the Three" as they were called, spoke
in ecstatic visions and tongues. All his followers, not merely the priests,
were discouraged from marriage. The Christian church prevailed against this
calling it a heresy and it eventually died out. The movement continued until
the sixth century when emperor Justinian vehemently suppressed it. Loyal to
their creed, as well as fanatical, the montanists of
Constantinople rather committed suicide than surrender.
They gathered in their churches and then set light to them, perishing in the
The beliefs ofMontanism contrasted with orthodox Christianity in the following
The belief that the prophecies of the Montanists superseded and fulfilled
the doctrines proclaimed by the Apostles.
The encouragement of ecstatic prophesying and speaking in tongues,
contrasting with the more sober and disciplined approach to theology
dominant in orthodox Christianity at the time and since.
The view that Christians who fell from grace could not be redeemed, also in
contrast to the orthodox Christian view that contrition could lead to a
sinner's restoration to the church.
The prophets of Montanism did not speak as messengers of God: "Thus saith
the Lord," but rather described themselves as possessed by God, and spoke in
his person. "I am the Father, the Word, and the Paraclete," said Montanus.
This possession by a spirit, which spoke while the prophet was incapable of
resisting, is described by the spirit of Montanus: "Behold the man is like a
lyre, and I dart like the plectrum. The man sleeps, and I am awake".
A stronger emphasis on the avoidance of sin, church discipline, and
apocalyptic living than in orthodox Christianity. They emphasized chastity,
including forbidding remarriage.
The teachings of Montanism also stated that the Father was the Son.
According to Philastrius (Hær., xlix) they
baptized the dead. Sozomen (xviii) tells us that they observed Easter on 6
April or on the following Sunday. Germanus of Constantinople (P.G., XCVIII,
44) says they taught eight heavens and eight degrees of damnation.
denounced Christian doctrines he considered heretical, but later in life
adopted views that came to be regarded as heretical themselves. He was the
first great writer of Latin Christianity, thus sometimes known as the "father
of the Latin Church". He was a follower of Montanism.
In 388 a group known as the
Tertullianistae appear in the literary record. They came from Carthage.
The sect gained rapid conversions at Rome
and was patronized by a supporter of the usurper Magnus Maximus. Soon,
however, the group vanished again, when its surviving members in Carthage
rejoined the Catholics and surrendered their basilica to bishop Aurelius.This
information is supplied by Augustine1
in De haeresibus ch. 86, and the anonymous 'Praedestinatus' (ca 435
AD) who partly copies him. These writers claim that Tertullian founded the
sect after quarrelling with the Montanists.
'Praedestinatorum Haeresis' Augustinech.26. The Cataphrygians came into being as the 26th heresy, and
take their name from the province they came from, not from their dogma. The
authors were Montanus, Prisca and Maximilla.
They therefore claim the arrival of the
holy spirit promised by the Lord to be in
themselves rather than in the apostles. They consider second marriages to be
fornication, and say the apostle Paul permitted them for the reason that he
knew only in part and prophesied only in part. For that
which is perfect had not yet come. But this perfection had arrived in
Montanus and in his prophetesses.
" the first steward of the New Prophecy," was a fellow-worker with Montanus.
Later on, Firmilian, writing to Cyprian, mentions a prophetess who appeared in
Cappadocia about A.D. 236, and Epiphanius (Haer. 49) tells of another
called Quintilla. - (ED.) Meanwhile in Phrygia and its neighbourhood -
especially in Galatia, and also in Thrace - a controversy was raging between
the adherents and the opponents of the new prophecy. Theodotus claimed that
Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit as a mortal man, and
though later adopted by God upon baptism, was not himself God until after his
Montanism also lead to Novatian, the
Donatists (Donatism), the Cathari, and even Emanuel Swedenborg and Edward
union of Marcion and Montanus…duelism)
Cathari is the name for members of the widespread
dualistic religious movement of the Middle Ages.
Carried from the Balkans to
Western Europe, Catharism flourished in the 12th and
13th cent. as far north as
England. It was known by various
names and in various forms Bogomils; Albigenses). Catharism was descended from
Gnosticism and Manichaeism and echoed many of the ideas of Marcion. The
Cathari tended to reject not only the outward symbols of the Christian church,
such as the sacraments and the hierarchy, but also the basic relationship
between God and humanity as taught by orthodox Christianity. Instead, the
Cathari believed in a dualistic universe, in which the God of the New
Testament, who reigned over spiritual things, was in conflict with the evil
god (or Satan), who ruled over matter. Asceticism, absolute surrender of the
flesh to the spirit, was to be cultivated as the means to perfection. There
were two classes of the Cathari, the believers and the Perfect. The believers
passed to the ranks of the Perfect on acceptance of the consolamentum,
a sort of sacrament that was a laying on of hands.
The Catharist concept of Jesus resembled modalistic Monarchianism in the West
in the East. Before their deaths
they would receive a baptism of the Spirit, the ceremony that converted a
believer into a Perfect or Elder. This ceremony convenenza, is known as
the consolamentum. Cathars did not involve water, only words, the
laying on of hands, and the placing of the Gospel attributed to St-John upon
the head of the consoled. According to the Albigenses and other Cathars, the
consolamentum was the baptism of the Holy Spirit, reception of all the
spiritual gifts, power to bind and loose, absolution, baptismal regeneration,
and Ordination all in one. As in other strands of early Christianity with no
central authority over the religion, the ritual took many forms. There were
some that used the entire New Testament and as stated above some only used the
book of John while consoling. There were even some remote cases where water
was used during consolamentum being profusely poured over the recipients head
until he/she was completely wet (as opposed to sprinkling) while the name of
Christ was mentioned in place of the mention of the members of the Trinity
which was a doctrine Albigenses and Cathars did not profess (their Christology
resembled modalistic monarchism in the West and adoptionism in the East).
Laying on of hands were always part of the ceremony. Some historians have
stated that incidences of estatic utterances during Consolamentum was actually
glossalia, speaking in tongues, which demanded that the rite be even more
secretly guarded since this phenomena occurring outside of the Church was
considered witchcraft which was punishable by death. The Cathari also held to
the belief in reincarnation.
Much of these teachings were becoming more and more
popular in the RCC. Christianity today has forgotten the reason for the
reformation. Roman Catholicism had been ruling with an iron fist. Gnostics and
superstition had filled the “church”. Faith had been buried in tradition.
Martin Luther, tried to correct the “church”
without destroying it but eventually he had to separate from it. Eventually
Luther began to refer to Papal Rome as the anti-christ. Grattan Guinness wrote
these memorable words: “From the first, and throughout, that movement
[the Reformation] was energized and guided by the prophetic word. Luther
never felt strong and free to war against the Papal apostasy till he
recognized the pope as antichrist. It was then that he burned the Papal bull.
Knox’s first sermon, the sermon that launched him on his mission as a
reformer, was on the prophecies concerning the Papacy. The reformers embodied
their interpretations of prophecy in their confessions of faith, and Calvin in
his ‘Institutes.’ All of the reformers were unanimous in the matter,
even the mild and cautious Melanchthon was as assured of the antipapal meaning
of these prophecies as was Luther himself. And their interpretation of these
prophecies determined their reforming action. It led them to protest against
Rome with extraordinary strength and
undaunted courage. It nerved them to resist the claims of the apostate Church
to the utmost. It made them martyrs; it sustained them at the stake. And the
views of the Reformers were shared by thousands, by hundreds of thousands.
They were adopted by princes and peoples. Under their influence nations
abjured their allegiance to the false priest of
Rome. In the reaction that followed, all the
powers of hell seemed to be let loose upon the adherents of the Reformation.
War followed war: tortures, burnings, and massacres were multiplied. Yet the
Reformation stood undefeated and unconquerable. God’s word upheld it, and the
energies of His Almighty Spirit. It was the work of Christ as truly as the
founding of the Church eighteen centuries ago; and the revelation of the
future which he gave from heaven - that prophetic book with which the
Scripture closes - was one of the mightiest instruments employed in its
accomplishment.” Romanism and the
Reformation, pp. 136, 137
The Counter Reformation, Council of Trent, was convened
to address the issues of the Reformation. One major issue was the term used by
Luther and other Reformers in comparing the Pope to the anti-Christ. On
August 15, 1534, Ignatius
Loyola founded a Roman Catholic order called the Society of Jesus, also called
Jesuits. The Jesuits have a dark and violent history. Some were expelled from
Portugal in 1759,
France in 1764,
Spain in 1767,
Naples in 1767, and
Russia in 1820. The Roman Catholic
Church commissioned the Jesuits, at the Council of Trent, the task of
countering the anti-Christ reference to the Papacy. They attempted to destroy
this through inquisition, and by re-writing the understanding of eschatology.
They were commissioned by the Pope to devise a new eschatology. Three members
are known for their work in this matter. They are; Francisco Ribera
(1537-1591), Jesuit priest and doctor of theology from Spain (futurism),
Manuel de Lacunza (1731-1801) Jesuit priest and doctor of theology from
Chilean and Spain (Futurist Millinanarianism), and Luis De Alcazar (1554-1613)
Jesuit priest and doctor of theology from Spain (preterism).
de Lacunza wrote a book entitled
'The Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty', and in its pages taught
that Christ returns in a 2 part coming. First part to
rapture the Church out of the world to mis the
revealing of the anti-Christ. After all if the Church is gone before
the anti-Christ is revealed, the Papacy can’t possibly be the anti-Christ.
Lacunza published his book under the pen name, Rabbi Ben Ezra, a supposedly
converted Jew. Lacunza's book was found in the library of the Archbishop of
Canterbury, in 1826 and made its way via parts translated and read by Edward
Irving, to the public.The “Romeward
movement was already arising, destined to sweep away the old Protestant
landmarks, as with a flood.”
Then we come to Edward Irving a Scottish Presbyterian that held to the
future anti-christ ideas of the Counter Reformation. In his study he read
Manuel de Lacunza’s book and translated it into English. Many began to accept
these teachings of future prophecies and began prophesying them selves. Two
families, the McDonalds and the Campbells were
drawn to this through their own practice of psychic readings, fortune telling
and auto-writings. This lead to prophetic utterances of
Margaret McDonald, a Scottish girl that influenced Irving’s
eschatology of a pre-trib rapture and proof that the “experience” was still
alive.Soon after we see the ecstatic utterances.McDonald and Irving both “prophecied”
that the coming would be in 1864. McDonald actually named the
anti-Christ. She named Robert Owen, a utopian socialist of the day. Robert
Owen was against all religions and was one of the founders of socialism in
Owen's philosophy was based on
three intellectual pillars:
First, no one was
responsible for his will and his own actions, because his whole
character is formed independently of himself; people are products of their
environment, hence his support for education and labour reform, rendering him
a pioneer in human capital investment.
Second, all religions are
based on the same absurd imagination, that make man a weak, imbecile
animal; a furious bigot and fanatic; or a miserable hypocrite; (though in
his later years he embraced Spiritualism).
middle ages speaking in tongues were reported in monasteries of the Orthodox
church. In the seventeenth century it seems to have been practiced in France
amongst the Huguenots (Protestants) and the Jansenists (pietistic Catholics).
In the nineteenth century glossolalia was practiced in America
amongst the Shakers and Mormons, and in Scotland
amongst the followers of Edward Irving, who saw this as the latter-rain
outpouring of the Holy Spirit prior to the pre-millennial return of the Lord."(Quote taken form Millard Erickson's Christian Theology
and Walter Elwell's Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, s.v.
"Montanists," "Pentecostalism," and "Tongues, Speaking in.")
1792-1834 (A product of Jesuit Papal defense, Marcion, Montanus, and
Edward Irving entered the
Edinburgh at the age of thirteen
and graduated with an MA at the age of sixteen in 1809.
Irving devoted his leisure time to
mathematics, physical science, and English literature. His favorite works were
Arabian Nights and Ossian. The Persian story of the Arabian Nights was a
mixture of mythological stories of gods and prophecies. Ossian was a book
based on Irish mythology full of prophetic tales and deeds which
Irving quoted from often.
Irving was a very charismatic man and
impressed people with his eloquent in speech.
Irving was comfortable among the poltical,
legal, and scientific men. He would win them over with ancient poetry, and his
opinionated views of modern man instead of “worn out theological discourse”.
His church membership began to fade as he replaced theological discourse for
poetry, political and mythological sermons. Being at odds with the main
current of the thought of his time, the failure of the commission he had
undertaken was sooner or later inevitable; and shortly after the opening of
his new church in Regent Square in 1827, he found that he was no longer
popular with the common man, and the church, though always well filled, was no
longer crowded. Because of this his self-esteem, one of his strongest
passions, was damaged. But the wound inflicted was of a deeper and deadlier
kind, because it confirmed his despair of the worlds
gradual decline, and established his tendency towards supernaturalism.
Prophecy began to take over his thinking and he began reading the works of a
Jesuit priest, Manuel Lacunza, writing under the assumed Jewish name of Juan
Josafat Ben-Ezra, then in 1827 he published a translation of it, accompanied
with an eloquent preface. This was his initiation into the doctrine of
millenarianism. The book was titled The Coming of the Messiah. It was
influential in the development of 19th century beliefs in an imminent
Millennium. Millenarianism is the belief by a religious, social, or political
group or movement in a coming major transformation of society after which all
things will be changed in a positive direction. To make a long story short,
Irving began to see the Church as a period
of time before this great Millennium event that was soon to take place. Since
the Church is still in the “age of the Church”, all the gifts should be in
Irving began to look for these gifts and
started a denomination known as the
CatholicApostolicChurch. One of the founders of this
church was a friend of
Irving named Henry Drummond an English
banker, politician and writer. Drummond greatly influenced
Irving due to his curiosity into prophetic
Irving began teaching on the gifts and
prophecy. Soon tongues were being taught in conferences by those taught of
Irving. After working as a mathematics
teacher and studying theology part time,
Irving was called in 1822 to the Caledonian
London as a preacher. His chapel
congregation grew so rapidly that in 1827 a new and larger church was built
for him in
Regent Square. His popularity waned,
however, because of his increasing stress on apocalypticism and eschatology,
including his prediction in 1825 that the Second Coming of Christ would occur
The following is a letter from Edward Irving, note the reference to the
Campbells and the McDonalds;
Judd Place, East June 2nd, 1830.
"My dear and kind friend, - I
have at last found the document I referred to. You will find it in the printed
Acts of the year 1704, Act xxviii., and from the
6th of certain 'Overtures concerning Schools and Bursaries, and for
instructing youth in the principles of religion;' and is as follows*:-"
footnote here indicates the following: "* It is unnecessary to quote the
extract made by Irving, which bears reference to
Chalmers's idea of making theology one of the branches of liberal
"There are very many Acts of
the Church scattered through these years following the Restoration concerning
the advancement of learning, which would, I think, strengthen your hands very
much in any undertaking to that effect.
"I had thought to see you to
thank you in person for your great kindness to me and my church on this
occasion; but the state of my poor boy's health prevents me from leaving home
for a night. Accept of them now, and be assured of my willingness to repay
unto Christ and His Church the kindness which by you He hath shown unto me;
and whenever any opportunity occurs of serving you personally, be assured of
"I perceive two things in
of the most fearful omen: First, self-sufficient ignorance of theological
truth, and a readiness to pride themselves in and boast of it, and to call
everything speculation which proposes to advance the bounds, or rather narrow
the limits, of theological knowledge. My doctrine on our Lord's human nature
is as literally the doctrine of the Confessions of the Church as can be -
viz., That He took the human nature of the Virgin, that it was thoroughly and
completely sanctified in the generation by the work of the Holy Ghost, and
underwent no process or progress of sanctification. Yet, through ignorance of
the person and office of the Holy Ghost, I perceive the greatest horror to
prevail against this truth, and a readiness to adopt one or other of the
errors - either that His nature was intrinsically better than ours, or that it
underwent a physical change before its assumption into the person of the Son.
If you would see, within a short compass, the three opinions brought to the
test of the Confessions of Faith, I recommend to you a short anonymous tract,
entitled The Opinions circulating concerning the Human Nature of our Lord
brought to trial before the Westminster
Confessions of Faith.
You ought to give some study to this point, and stand in the breach for the
truth. I have thoroughly gone through the subject of the Incarnation; and if
it served you, could at any time give you the history from the beginning of
the controversies on this subject, and of its present form. The second thing
which grieves and oppresses my heart with respect to poor Scotland, is the
hardness of heart manifest in the levity and cruelty with which they speak of
others; the zeal and readiness with which they rush to overthrow such men of
God as John Campbell; the union of all parties to this end; the scorn with
which they regard the signs of the Holy Ghost beginning to be again vouchsafed
to the Church; and, if not scorn, the mere juryman way of considering them, as
the House of Commons might, without any respect to any existing promise, or
probability, or doctrine of any kind upon the subject, - also without any
regard to the discernment of the Holy Ghost in us, and even as if the Holy
Ghost were merely a sharpener of our natural faculties to detect imposture or
to know sincere persons. The substance of Mary Campbell's and Margaret
Macdonald's visions or revelations, given in their papers, carry to me a
spiritual conviction and a spiritual reproof which I cannot express. Mr.
Cunningham, of Lainshaw, said to me the other day,
that he had seen nothing since the Apostles' days worthy to be compared with a
letter of Mary Dunlop's which is written to the person of this city. Thomas
Erskine and other persons express themselves more
overpowered by the love, and assurance, and unity seen in their prayers and
conversations than by the works. Oh, my friend! oh,
my dear master! there are works of the Spirit and
communications of the Spirit which few of us ever dream of! Let us not resist
them when we see them in another. Mind my words when I say, 'The Evangelical
party in the Church of Scotland will lay all flat if they be not prevented.' I
desire my true love to Mrs Chalmers and Miss Anne.
May God give you a prosperous journey!
During this time a man named John Darby came into
prominence; he was a founder of the Plymouth Brethren movement and influenced
many famous men as his followers, including C.I. Scofield. Until the time of
John Darby there was no dispensational teaching as we know it today other than
what was taught by Marcion in the middle of the second century A.D. This was
also dealt with as a heresy by the early church.
Darby is the acknowledged father of modem dispensational premillennialism.
Darby is remembered especially for his recalling the church to expectancy for
its rapture at the return of the Lord before Daniel's Seventieth Week. The
doctrine of a secret rapture was first conceived by John Nelson Darby of the
Plymouth Brethren in 1830. Darby invented the doctrine claiming there were not
one, but two "second comings." This teaching was viewed as unbiblical by other
members of the Brethren. Samuel Tregelles, a biblical scholar, said that
Darby’s two comings teachings was the "height of speculative nonsense."
Another member of the Plymouth Brethren, B.W. Newton, disputed Darby's new
doctrine claiming such a conclusion was only possible if one declared certain
passages to be "renounced as not properly ours."(This is eventually what Darby DID). "This is precisely what Darby was
prepared to do. Too traditional to admit that biblical authors might have
contradicted each other, and too rationalist to admit that the prophetic maze
defied penetration, Darby attempted a resolution of his exegetical dilemma by
distinguishing between Scripture intended for the Church and Scripture
Israel. . . . Darby's difficulty
was solved by assuming that the Gospels were addressed partly to Jews and
partly to Christians."
The doctrine of the separation of
Israel and the Church,
Dispensationalism, was formed out of Darby's attempt to justify his new
rapture theory with the Bible.
To a large degree, his eschatology flows out of his
ecclesiology which underwent radical change between 1827 and 1831 due to the
influence of Edward Irving’s teachings on Millenarianism. In 1830 Margaret
McDonald's "word of prophecy" which, for the first time in church history,
divided the second advent of Christ into two parts: the "rapture of the
church" (her vision has since become known as the "Pre-trib rapture of the
church"). Margaret's friend, Mary Campbell, was the first person to speak in
unknown tongues, Sunday evening,
March 28, 1830, and
Margaret's brothers spoke in unknown tongues on
Friday, April 6, 1830. Then
Margaret herself spoke in unknown tongues from her sick bed, "With her word of
prophecy". Later, one of Margaret's older sisters wrote to Robert Norton of
Margaret undergoing another "outpouring of the spirit" followed the same day
by her brother James' Baptism of the spirit and Margaret's "supernatural"
healing from her illness. Her recovery caused her to be sought after for
Darby then traveled to
America where one of his converts,
Southern Baptist preacher in N.C. Richard Sparling, said the first century
gifts were now back in the world. Out of Sparling's
revival came the Thomplison Brothers, founders of the Southern Church of God
whose college is now on the old Bob Jones campus,
Dowie was born in
Edinburgh and moved to Australia as a boy but returned to Edinburgh to study
theology. Founded the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church in America in 1896.
Dowie was from the same area as Irving (founder of the Catholic
Apostolic Church) and attended the same university in Edinberg. Dowie claimed
to be Elijah.
Though Dowie himself did not accept the Spirit-baptism with tongues
theology, he is called "the father of healing revivalism in
America" (Harrell, All Things
Are Possible, p. 13). His latter days miracle theology helped pave the way
for Pentecostalism, and Pentecostal theology did quickly permeate his
institutions even before his death. Many influential Pentecostal leaders came
out of his movement. His magazine, Leaves of Healing, had a worldwide
distribution and a vast influence. Dowie taught that healing is promised in
the atonement and insisted that those who sought faith healing give up all
He viewed druggists and physicians as instruments of the devil. When his
own daughter was severely burned after accidentally knocking over an alcohol
lamp, he banished one of his followers for trying to alleviate her pain with
Vaseline. He refused to allow her any medical treatment and she died in that
condition. Many others who came to his faith cure homes died of their
illnesses without any medical attention. In 1895 he was charged with
manslaughter and neglect by the city of
Chicago and convicted, but the higher courts
ruled that the conviction was unconstitutional. He required that his followers
give up the use of all pork products. He ruled his City of
Zion with an iron hand and was noted for
financial irresponsibility and a love for personal luxury. In 1901 he claimed
that he was Elijah the Restorer, and in 1904 he "told his followers to
anticipate the full restoration of apostolic Christianity and revealed that he
had been divinely commissioned as the first apostle of a renewed end-times
church" (Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, p. 249).
In the last few years of his life he was accused of sexual irregularities, he
suffered a crippling stroke, and his
ZionCity was declared bankrupt. For six
months before his death he lay in a state of total despondency.
In spite of Dowie's heretical doctrines and unscriptural ministry, he
prepared the way for Charles Parham and his equally unscriptural
Pentecostalism. Many of the most famous Pentecostal evangelists went out from
IL the town that Dowie founded.
Dozens of Parham's followers at
Zion joined the Assemblies of God at its
formation in 1914. In fact, three of the original eight members of the AOG
general council were from
ZionCity (p. 370). Those who arose from
Zion City to become influential in the Pentecostal movement included F.F.
Bosworth, John Lake, J. Rosewell Flower, Daniel Opperman, Cyrus Fockler, Fred
Vogler, Marie Burgess Brown, William Piper, F.A. Graves, Lemuel Hall, Martha
Robinson, Gordon Lindsay, and Raymond Richey. Influential Assemblies of God
minister Gordon Lindsay, editor of Voice of Healing, wrote Dowie's
biography and gave him credit for influencing "a host of men of faith who have
had powerful ministries," referring to generations of Pentecostal preachers.
1896 Charles Parham begins a ministry of healing, One
year after Dowie begins his movement. A successful
ministry of healing, plus Bible classes and training sessions for workers
resulted in requests for a full college. This led to the opening, in
October, 1900, of Bethel Bible College, patterned along lines Parham had
encountered during a summer’s visit to Eastern schools, "such as Dowie’s work
who was then in Chicago; the Eye-Opener work of the same city; Malone’s work
in Cleveland; Dr. Simpson’s work in Nyack, New York; Sanford’s ‘Holy Ghost and
Us’ work at Shiloh, Maine and many others."
He opened his college in 1901, the Bible college
BethelBibleCollege. Parham assigned his
students to search the Scriptures and find "if there is not some evidence
given of the baptism [of the Holy Ghost] so there may be no doubt on the
subject".Jan. 1, 1901,
For the rest of the day (the last day of 1900), leading up to the Watch Night
service, "There was a holy hush over the entire building" and "all felt the
influence of a mighty presence in our midst" and "such a spirit of unity
prevailed that even the children (were) at peace".
It is not surprising then that the night service (New Year’s Eve) "was
especially spiritual" and sometime after
(she remembers it as being
next day), Agnes Ozman asked Parham to lay his hands on her. When he did so,
she began to speak with other tongues and her English was taken away for three
days;He called the group together (the 40 students now augmented by
75 visitors from the area, including some from Kansas City), and was
supposedly amazed by the unanimity of the answer that "speaking in tongues"
was the Biblical evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Almost immediately, still in January, he took a party of seven students (more
correctly referred to as "workers" because all were adults, many seasoned
Gospel workers, and a few even ordained ministers) to
First there were ten days of meetings, starting Jan. 21,1901, in
the Academy of Music, and then in a tent in Shelly Park where a six-hour
daytime prayer meeting, with over a hundred participating, amazed the
Parham, the founder of Pentecostalism, was riddled with
doctrinal heresies. He believed in annihilation of the unsaved and denied the
Bible doctrine of eternal torment. He believed in the unscriptural doctrine of
anglo-Israelism. He taught that there were two separate creations, and that
Adam and Eve were of a different race than people who allegedly lived outside
of the Garden of Eden. The first race of men did not have souls, he claimed,
and this race of unsouled people was destroyed in the flood. Parham believed
that those who received the latter days spirit
baptism and spoke in tongues would make up the bride of Christ and would have
a special place of authority at Christ's return. He believed in a partial
rapture composed of tongues speakers. This “gift” spread rapidly through the
school and soon the whole student body became involved and began to spread
this EXPERIENCE across the country. The word spread to
TX, to a black Nazarene evangelist named
W.J. Seymore, who in 1903, attended Charles
Parham's Bible school where he received the “experience”. There he became
committed to another false doctrine, that the Christian MUST be subsequently
"baptized in the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of tongues." In early
Seymour was invited to
Los Angeles to pastor a small holiness group
which, at the time of the invitation, was pastored by a woman, Julie Hutchins.
The group was formed of people who had been disciplined out of the
SecondBaptistChurch for the "second blessing"
sinless perfection heresy. On the way to
Seymour visited Alma White's Pillar of Fire
Colorado. This group taught sinless
sanctification and believed the evidence of the same was dancing. Alma White
was not impressed with
Seymour. She later described him as follows:
"I had met all kinds of religious fakers and tramps, but I felt he excelled
them all." Seymore went to
Los Angeles to Pastor a Nazarene church on
Bonny Bray Street where he opened his
meeting by giving the testimony of his “experience”. The elders of the
Nazarene church closed the meeting, hoping to silence this heresy but many in
the congregation became interested. Seymore and few people went down the
street to a closed up stable on
Azusa Street, opened it, and he
preached his “experience”. This is known as the "Azusa Street Revival." The
meeting went on for years, people came from all
over the world to receive the “experience”. The movement has not changed much
since then. The movement grew rapidly from the Azusa Street “experience” in
1907 to the 1940s Some believed that one must receive Christ then tarry until
baptized with the Holy Spirit; others believed one is saved first then must be
entirely sanctified because the Holy Spirit would never indwell a life not
entirely sanctified; still others believed that one must be saved and then
baptized in the name of Jesus in order to be fully saved, and then later, one
could be sanctified and then ready for baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Here are a
few quotes from notable theologians who were eye witnesses of the Azusa St.
G. Campbell Morgan described the
Azusa Street activities as, "the last
vomit of Satan." R.A. Torrey declared that this new Pentecostal movement was,
"emphatically not of God, and founded by a Sodomite.” H. A. Ironside said in
1912 AD both the holiness and Pentecostal movements were, "disgusting.
. .delusions and insanities." ... "pandemonium's
where exhibitions worthy of a madhouse or a collection of howling dervishes,"
were causing a "heavy toll of lunacy and infidelity."W.B. Godbey said of the
Azusa Street participants and he
claimed the movement was the result of spiritualism. "Satan's preachers,
jugglers, necromancers, enchanters, magicians, and all sorts or mendicants,"
Clarence Larkin "But the conduct of those possessed, in
which they fall to the ground and writhe in contortions, causing
disarrangement's of the clothing and disgraceful scenes, is more a
characteristic of demon possession, than a work of the Holy Spirit. From what
has been said we see that we are living in "Perilous Times," and that all
about us are "Seducing Spirits," and that they will become more active as the
Dispensation draws to its close, and that we must exert the greatest care lest
we be led astray."
Example of the
spread of the “experience”
Out of this came a man named Oral Roberts who was a
struggling preacher and finding no church that would accept his experience. He
met a man named Demos Shakarian, whom I have met, that was a wealthy business
man whose family had been a part of the
Azusa Street “experience”. Demos
Shakarian approached Oral Roberts with a marketing idea. His idea was to
circumvent the established churches and go directly to the members of the
churches. Oral Roberts and Demos worked out the plan to erect a large tent in
a city and hold services on the off nights of normal church activities. Demos
began an organization to manage events which is known today as, The Full
Gospel Businessmen Association through which much of the beginning of tent
meetings and televangelism was financed.
Note: A.J. Tomlinson is said to be the founder of the
“latter rain movement” and founded the
“Last Great Conflict”, A.J.
Tomlinson and M.S. Lemons met with M.M. Pinson who was then under the
influence of G.B. Cashwell, in
Alabama, in June, 1907. Cashwell was member
of the Fire-Baptized Holiness Church of North Carolina. He got his
Spirit-baptism theology from a personal visit to the
Azusa StreetMission in December, 1906. The meeting
between Tomlinson, Lemons, and Pinson is also recounted in the aforementioned
“The Apostolic Faith” by B.F.
Lawrence. G.B. Cashwell personally came to
Tennessee, in January, 1908, and it was
then that A.J. Tomlinson spoke in tongues. Tomlinson had begun to preach on
Spirit-baptism as early as one year previous, but now he had the experience
for himself. He recounts this experience in his 1913 “Last
Great Conflict”. He combines his typical picturesque manner of expression
and his interest in ecclesiology to suggest that W.J. Seymour was the recent
originator of this crucial doctrine.
Some would ask how John Neslon Darby and his
dispensational view and Pentecostalism are related. Darby rejected the
“experience” (Pentecostalism). Darby rejected the charismatic aspects of the
experience but accepted the theological aspects of the doctrine. Darby did not
deny the spiritual gifts to the Church but taught they were for the Apostolic
age only. "He felt that in the early Church the sign gifts- including healing,
miracles, and speaking in tongues- were given so that the world could see a
demonstration of God's power and blessing upon Christianity (I Corinthians
14:22). Miracles were linked to the original establishment of a new testimony
of God, and were meant to be temporary."
However, due to Darby’s dispensational teachings and
Irving’s millenarianism and the “gifts”, a
new revelation had come, the later rain movement. If we are still in the
“church age” (dispensational view) then the “gifts” must still be present.
Irving viewed this pre-mil dispensational
teaching as needing a church without spot or wrinkle, a holy body of
believers. This could only be possible with the sanctification of the spirit.
He viewed the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a means of this sanctification and
ecstatic utterances and prophecies were the evidence.
Dositheus Claims to be the Messiah
Simon Magnus a false prophet and magician, becomes a disciple of Dositheus
Cerdon (Cerdo) a disciple of Simon Magnus.
Marcion learns from Cerdo and denied the God of the Old Testament stating it
was only for the Jews.
Montanus, claimed spiritual understanding
including ecstatic utterances, which was used in the pagan worship. Also
taught oneness. Jesus was another God.
Cathari (the union of Marcion and Montanus)
Mormonism, in order to prove its position has claimed theological
partnership with Marcion and Montanus.
Montanus and Marcion influenced
Manichaeanism led to what is
called Albigensesism, which flourished in southern France in the
twelfth and thirteenth centuries.
This was the beginning of the Camisards, A sect of French fanatics who
terrorized Dauphiné, Vivarais, and chiefly the Cévennes in the beginning of
the eighteenth century.
This led to Quakers and Shakers. (ecstatic utterances continue)
The Reformation view of the papacy as the anti-christ causes the instigation
of the Jesuits
Manuel Lacunza, a Jesuit, began what is known as Millenarianism, a belief by
a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major
transformation of society after which all things will be changed in a
Lacunza is recognized by the Adventist movement as a prophet.
Adventist movement led to Jehovah Witnesses and 7th day
Edward Irving was greatly influenced by (the Jesuit defense of the papacy,
(Lacunza), Montanus, Marcion, and Manichaeanism (combines all these thoughts
into a new revelation) Relies on ecstatic utterances and prophecies to form
Darby influenced by Edward Irving’s millenarianism forms modern
C. I. Scofield is influenced by Darbyism.
Darby travels to
America and converts N.C.
Richard Sparling, Southern Baptist preacher.
Out of Sparling's revival came the Thomplison Brothers, founders of the
Southern Church of God whose college is now on the old Bob Jones campus,
John Alexander Dowie (influenced by
Irving) moves to
America and begins the
ChristianCatholicApostolicChurch and promotes divine
Charles Parham influenced by Dowie marries a Quaker (ecstatic utterances
practiced by her)
The “fire” had began in
America and Parham was caught up
in it from within his family and from without.
Parham goes to
Texas to evangelize and meets W.J.
Parham was charged with sodomy
with two young males in San Antonio, Texas.
Parham starts the Bethel Bible
College in Kansas.
Parham and and his students
AGREE on the new theology and to pursue the “experience”, per his wife’s
account. and on January 1, 1901 after teaching on the the baptism of the
Holy Spirit, a woman by the name of Angus Ausman was praying and
around midnight she said that she had received the first century gift of the
baptism of the Holy Spirit and had spoken in tongues.
Parham informs his friend, W.J. Seymore in
TX. of the “experience”
W.J. Seymore attends Parham’s teachings in school but must set in the hall
way because he is a black man
W.J. Seymore is invited to Pastor in
Los Angeles at the
NazareneChurch rejects the “experience”
and stops W.J. Seymore from continuing.
People in the church that heard W.J. Seymore ask him to continue teaching.
W.J. Seymore rents an old stable on
Azusa St. and teaches for a few
Seymour there, he denounced the revival as
a "darky camp meeting," saying, "God is sick at His stomach!" and "what good
can come from a self-appointed Negro prophet?”.
Parham joins the Ku Klux Klan
G.B. Cashwell visits
G.B. Cashwell meets A.J. Tomlinson (a Quaker) in
A.J. Tomlinson receives the “experience”
Death of A.J. Tomlinson caused a split and have now formed 24 denominations
Charles Harrison Mason founds
the Church of God in Christ in 1897 due to being expelled from the
Missionary Baptist Church for teaching holiness.
Charles Harrison Mason visits
Azusa St. and has the “experience”
Church of God in Christ
changes its name to Church of God and is now teaching the “experience”
(mostly Black Church)
The White pentecosatls
separate from the Black due to racial tensions and forms the Assemblies of
God in 1914
Forerunners to the Assemblies
of God forming, Apostolic Faith Movement, Church of God (not Mason)
Holiness Baptist Churches of Southwestern Arkansas, United Pentecostal
By this time the “experience” has spread across the country and the family
of Demos Shakarian is involved in
Demos Shakarian is a wealthy business man who meets Oral Roberts.
Demos Shakarian sets Oral Roberts up with other business men to market the
Demos Shakarian founder of the Full Gospel Businessmen Association.
FGBA finances the movement.
If you read the testimonies of these people mentioned, along with all the
leaders and members of this movement, you will notice a common thread. That
thread is EXPERIENCE. Anytime you allow an experience to dictate what
scripture says, you are in deep error. This is exactly what has happened in
the Pentecostal and Charismatic movement and the Word of Faith. They are
Gnostic from the root.
And so here we are………………
Ecstatic utterances are/were practiced by:
·The prophets of Aphrodite (female and male
prostitutes whose influence infiltrated the church in
·"In ancient times the practice of speaking in
unintelligible languages during religious ecstasy was not unknown. From
Egypt come reports of ecstatic
speech, and later in the Greek world the prophetess of
Delphi and the Sibylline priestess spoke in unknown
tongues. Amongst the Roman mystery religions, the Dionysian Cult was known for
this practice.” Millard Erickson's
Christian Theology and Walter Elwell's Evangelical Dictionary of
·Virgil in his Aeneid stated that the pagan
sibylline oracles on the
Delos spoke in ecstatic utterances
·Shakers - established in the
US in 1776, by mother Ann Lee, who
claimed she was the embodiment of God. Declared that all sex is evil. To purge
the sexual desire she instituted the practice of dancing around naked while
speaking in tongues. They also had séances to call up Indian guides.
·Irvingites - founded by Edward Irving.
Irving taught Christ was a sinner and the
second coming would be in 1864.
·Joseph Smith stated "arise upon your feet speak
or make some sound, continue to make sounds of some kind and the Lord will
make a tongue or language of it."